JAN SC & ASC (Safety Course & Adv SC) & JAN Level 1

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for those who speak the lingo.... JAN's SC & ASC (equivalent to RAC) is on offer this winter (i intend to dress like mamabear and attend the all ladies course on 2/21 - i have an extra mamabear costume btw). The website doesn't say where JAN Level 1 will be held for all those interested in the full taco.

http://nadare.jp/2008/10/09-season-2.html

日 程 :
SC1白馬 2009年1月10日(土)~1月11日(日) ※キャンセルによる空きがあります(1/5)
SC2白馬 2009年1月31日(土)~2月01日(日) ※定員となりました。
SC3水上 2009年2月02日(月)~2月03日(火) ※定員となりました。
SC4白馬 2009年2月07日(土)~2月08日(日) ※定員となりました。
SC5白馬 2009年2月12日(木)~2月13日(金)
SC6八甲田 2009年2月17日(火)~2月18日(水)
SC7白馬レディース 2009年2月21日(土)~2月22日(日)
SC8ニセコ 2009年2月28日(土)~3月01日(日)
SC9白馬 2009年3月07日(土)~3月08日(日)
※SC7 は女性のみのコースです。

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I think the JAN/CAA Level 1

I think the JAN/CAA Level 1 was fully booked out quite some time ago.

It is held in Hakuba and has Canadian instructors.

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Correct - we tried getting

Correct - we tried getting our patrol on the translated CAA Operations Level 1 held in Hakuba, but it was already booked up on the second day of accepting applications. Is it fair to assume that JAN's SC is the equivalent of CAA AST-1, and JAN's ASC is the equivalent of CAA AST-2?

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I dont know what SC nor ASC

I dont know what SC nor ASC means?

But JAN's Level 1 is the exact same course as the CAA Level 1. In fact it is thought by CAA instructors.

Note: the CAA level 1 is not a recreational avalanche course such as RAC or ARAC.

Oops, I now looked at the dates and see that the above listed SC's (safety courses) are separate to the Level 1.

Level 1 白馬 2009年1月18日(日)~25日(日)http://nadare.jp/2008/08/2009-jan-training-school-level.html

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my plan is to sneak off to

my plan is to sneak off to whistler from jan 29 to feb 9, and take both caa ast-1 and ast-2 with canada west mtn school. my idea is to get the basics down solid rather than jumping straight into caa ops level 1. i know jan has the sc and asc courses in japan, but i figure i will get a lot more out of it if i take these courses and study all the materials in english.

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db wrote:I dont know what SC

db wrote:
I dont know what SC nor ASC means?

But JAN's Level 1 is the exact same course as the CAA Level 1. In fact it is thought by CAA instructors.

Note: the CAA level 1 is not a recreational avalanche course such as RAC or ARAC.

Oops, I now looked at the dates and see that the above listed SC's (safety courses) are separate to the Level 1.

Level 1 白馬 2009年1月18日(日)~25日(日)http://nadare.jp/2008/08/2009-jan-training-school-level.html

It looks like RAC and ARAC no longer exist (or at least they are not offered by CAA or CAC). These are now AST-1 and AST-2 and are offered by the CAC (not the CAA - they do the Level I). It looks like JAN is replicating these with SC and ASC. Just to confuse things further, the American's (AIARE) call these Level I and Level II.

So, In summary (without getting into which is more desirable):

RAC = AST-1 = SC = AIARE Level I
ARAC = AST-2 = ASC = AIARE Level II
CAA Level 1 = JAN Level 1 = NZ Level 1 = AIARE Level III = AAA AVPRO

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ast 1&2 combo in hakuba

changed plans to save a load of time, although it will be later in the season... will do ast 1&2 in english in hakuba with evergreen on mar 14-18. any takers?

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Assuming I can take leave, I

Assuming I can take leave, I will meet/see you there Soprano.

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I'd love to take the course

I'd love to take the course then if I can't take it earlier. I'm still trying to understand what's available through JAN and I can take it earlier I will. Otherwise, I will confirm with work and try to get off then.

Is anyone taking anything earlier? I need to go for the most basic cources. SNP, you sign up?

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dude. i'm taking NZ Level 1

dude. i'm taking NZ Level 1 this summer instead given my geographical handicap.

there's a beer on offer if you want to come down here to join me. http://www.poachninja.com/forums/weather-and-snowpack-forum/nz-level-1

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